• TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    Imagine dreaming to fly to space only to be denied having it because you also cared about the rights of indigenous people.

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      7 days ago

      Imagine dreaming to fly to space only to be denied having it because you’re not indigenous and they haven’t met their arbitrary quota of indigenous people.

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        7 days ago

        Imagine beeing this fragile.

        I’ll spell it out for you honey. As long as we don’t offer the same privileges white people have to all people, we need a qutoa to level the playing field.

        I know that doesn’t fit your ideology. Doesn’t change how it’s true tough.

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          7 days ago

          What advantages does NASA give to white people that it would have to compensate for?

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            7 days ago

            I’m glad you asked. Racial discrimination when hiring is a problem and can be observed easily.

            For example this meta study, that looked at many experimental studies in 6 different western counties, shows how racial discrimination is a problem when hiring. This has been demonstrated in experimental research by sending two resumes to different workplaces. They show the same level of qualification, but one of them is from a white on one from a person that is not. You do this a lot, like 200 times with 200 employers and see how often both candidates are invited.

            And consistently you can see that white people are invites, while racial divergent people are not.

            From the meta study this reads like this:

            Persistent discrimination in labor markets in North America and Europe has been demonstrated most clearly by field experiments in which investigators use testers or submit applications by mail or over the internet for jobs with clues indicating the race or ethnicity of applicants (5–7). These experiments show that on average in Western countries native Whites receive about 50% more callbacks than similarly qualified non-White applicants (5).*  This does not include significant additional discrimination that occurs after the callback (8).

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              Cool study. What evidence is there that NASA has an unfair hiring practice they need to adjust for?

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                The study is evidence that there is a systemic disadvantage for non whites when hiring.

                Why should this not be the case at NASA? What makes NASA so special that findings, that showed true on a systemic level across six countries don’t apply to it?

                If you are interested, NASA did an audit on their progress on including DEIA in 2023.

                https://oig.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/IG-23-011.pdf

                Despite support from Agency leaders and multiple initiatives to increase diversity, we found NASA has made little progress in increasing the representation of women and minorities in its civilian workforce or leadership ranks. Specifically, over the past decade NASA’s overall workforce demographics have stayed roughly the same, with small increases (1 or 2 percent) for some groups. Demographics have not varied significantly over the same time period at individual NASA Centers, with only two Centers increasing African American representation and other Centers making small gains in Hispanic, Asian American, and women’s representation. We also found NASA has made few gains in the percentages of women and racial and ethnic minorities in its senior levels (General Schedule 14 and 15 positions and NASA’s Efforts to Increase Diversity in Its Workforce RESULTS IN BRIEF Senior Executive Service) over the decade. At the same time, the proportion of veterans NASA hires has declined over the past 10 years, most significantly from 28 percent in 2015 to 13 percent in 2021

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                  7 days ago

                  Sounds like they were already only hiring qualified people.

                  Forcing DEI where there was no problem causes a problem.

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      9 days ago

      With internet archive head quarters being in the US what would happen if the administration went after them? Would people from other countries be able to keep the project going?

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        That’s unfortunately a very valid point. Iirc the big problem IA has is the sheer amount of disk space required to store everything.

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          I wish I had the necessary petabytes of storage to at least store an offline copy. I wonder how many disks that would be and how redundant disks you’d need.

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            Here’s this from 2021. They say they have about 200PB of raw storage across some 20k spinning drives at the time of writing (with more being added constantly, about 25%/yr), and capacities are mixed from 4TB to 16TB, across 750 servers housed on about 75 racks. I have 6x16TB WD red pros that ran me about $355/ea new with tax, and my bill was a smidge over $2100. Assuming you used all 16TB, you’d need about 12,500 16TB disks, which would run you about $4,437,500 without a bulk discount. How much of that is redundancy I’m not sure, but that’s just HDDs, not the hardware to actually run everything between storage enclosures, OS, disks, memory, clustering, etc. They say they say a single copy with 16TB drives would be about 15 racks., but how that breaks down I’m not sure.

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        9 days ago

        We need to distribute all that data, for the sake of history in the future. Data hoarding and torrenting is a service to humanity.

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          8 days ago

          Not just data but in important scientific research too. The republicans want to drive the US back to the stone age, because that’s when they were last relevant.

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    9 days ago

    I thought those fucking cretins were supposed to be reducing government waste. How is forcing agencies to paint over murals with positive vibes and update their website to remove magic words a good use of their time and money?

    because it’s not and never was about that and by the time everyone else realises it will be too late to stop it without great effort

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      9 days ago

      You are pissed at another kid, so you find a dog turd near the playground and you throw it his way.

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    Okay, okay, yeah is it bad? Yeah it’s bad but listen up libs - Remember when Harris was being reported as focusing on the middle class during her four month campaign? Huh? Yeah. That’s why this is happening. And we were right to not fight against this fascist horror with the one thing that would have mattered, our vote. She should have paid more attention to people who have it bad.

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    Janet Petro—the first woman to hold the position since its founding 67 years ago—wrote that diversity programs “divided Americans by race, wasted taxpayer dollars, and resulted in shameful discrimination,”

    In 2021, when she was the director of Kennedy Space Center, she spoke at length in an interview about the value of diversity, saying “our commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility has been paramount to mission success.”

    The turnaround is giving me whiplash.

    There’s no begrudging following of the rules, it’s wholeheartedly embracing the new regime.

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      The quote from the email isn’t her words. They were given to her (and all agency heads) to send out to their workforce to implement the EO. It should not be taken as “embracing the new regime”.

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      9 days ago

      When it is easy everyone thinks they are Oskar Schindler but when it is hard most people are Hugo Boss.

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        Sun-Tzu actually described how this works with soldiers, and how do you work with such gentle material. I’d say his book’s parts on psychology are about making a Hugo Boss from a wannabe Oskar Schindler, but if one applies his advice to oneself, one can put different goals.

        I also like Marcus Aurelius.

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    ITT: People who doesn’t read the article. These science institutions shouldn’t be used for fucking politics.

    I wonder if something from the list published in this article has any relation to science or space. Yeah sure, let’s go with “DEI and other Inclusivity programs are NECESSARY for space survival”. I wonder what’s the objective of NASA.

    Lol don’t worry, this Astronaut knows pronouns. /s

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      These science institutions shouldn’t be used for fucking politics.

      You’d think, huh? Daamn, that’s crazy

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        Bro, if you’re going to be sarcastic, at least try to sound smart. You just need to read the title to see its fucking propaganda from the opposition.

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            Yet you still act like a fucking moron, what is your secret?

            Do you also read articles and form an opinion of your own?

            Damn, really? That’s craaaazy.