I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of ‘hitlerites’
I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?
Hexbear, lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are the “Tankie Triad”.
Hexbear is the worst most extreme of them and lemmy.ml is the least which is why they’ve managed to avoid getting defederated from world (either that or because they’re like the third largest instance behind only .world and SJW)
Hexbear is pretty widely defederated
A community of adherents of a political ideology which is fringe and marginal, and at the same time responsible for Trump’s victory. Very dangerous individuals.
Were the communists responsible for Hitler’s electoral victory? Asking for a friend.
Didnt you hear about the fire in the Reichstag???
Actual leftists mostly, with a few crazies.
Actual crazies with a few leftists.
Why don’t you asked them yourself? !askchapo@hexbear.net
Probably a bad idea to ask about a Marxist instance on a .world community, since .world is known to be quite biased against Marxism.
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I’ve frequently noted that you tend to get a very one sided answer when you ask, for instance, Mormons about Mormonism. Likewise, I wouldn’t expect a balanced and fair assessment of hexbear by asking hexbear mods and users.
The opposite is true, when you only ask people not federated with Hexbear you get equally imbalanced opinions. OP already did that, may as well ask on Hexbear as well to get the other side of the story.
Hexbear removes any questions or opinions they don’t agree with. They heavily censor the discussion and consider it a feature of their community.
Other Lemmy servers allow a diversity of thought and opinion. They allow people to question and disagree.
It’s not about sides of the story, it’s the difference between free discussion of individuals versus a standardized party line that cannot be questioned. The former tends to expose the truth, while the latter tends to obfuscate the truth.
Lemmy.world doesn’t allow any opinions from Hexbear, they defederated from them. That is more censorship, though less obvious because you don’t see the comments getting removed. Even then, comments still get removed for going against the “party line” as well, usually comments critiquing the Democrats.
What’s more correct is that Hexbear is more open and up front with its bias, while instances like Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works try to pretend that they don’t hold bias.
Bias you say? ROFL!
If you said this exact same thing in a community hosted on Hexbear or .ml, about Hexbear or .ml, it would be deleted, and you would be banned- 1st offense.
Don’t believe me? Check the mod logs. The admins there have banned people for far less.
The fact that your comment is allowed and you’re free to express it already belies your entire argument
Huh. Interesting that everyone not federated with Hexbear would have a imbalanced/negative opinion of them, wouldn’t you say? Why do you suppose that might be?
https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad
One word, Tankies.
The community I shared rounds up posts that really portray their
PhalusophyPhilosophy really well. Now you would need to scroll down a bit to see some posts from hexbear specifically.but I cannot recommend you enough to stay well away from hexbear, lemmygrad and if possible .ml
Quick question, what’s the humor in satarizing a Chinese man as a yellow bear, specificially? Why not a Panda?
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Sure, so why Pooh and not a Panda?
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I don’t fault the origins entirely (though it is suspicious nonetheless), I fault the staying power and the overwhelming usage by right-wing westerners. Why isn’t Obama referenced as Tigger, or Shinzo Abe as Eeyore?
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You’d have to ask the Chinese internet users who started the meme. Or there is a detailed wikipedia article if you’re interested in the backstory.
Wikipedia actually doesn’t state that it was chinese users that started it, just that the Chinese internet started taking the comparisons down (same with all of the articles I found and the ones Wikipedia references as sources). Additionally, the original image of Xi and Obama together as Pooh and Tigger, and the subsequent picture of Xi and Shinzo Abe as Pooh and Eeyore, emerged as group pictures of world leaders, but only the comparison of Xi to Pooh stuck.
Further, that doesn’t explain the immense popularity among westerners in portraying Xi as a yellow bear, nor why it seems to be especially popular among western right-wingers.
Curiously enough, MWoG is maintained by a gamergater. Curious indeed.
Source on the gamergater claim?
Here’s where they admit to it. They claim to have gotten better, but they were radicalized by it, and their behavior indicates that they haven’t actually moved too far beyond it, such as when they complain about “encountering wokeness.” In another instance, they blame far-right radicalization on “forcing equity,” which is just anti-DEI nonsense.
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Hexbear.net is a Left-Unity instance populated mainly by Marxists and Anarchists. They generally don’t get along with Lemmy.world, whose admins defederated from the major Marxist-aligned instances.
Whether you block Hexbear is up to you, I enjoy my time there a lot but it’s also because I’m a Marxist. The ones saying they are “pretending” to be Leftist never seem to be able to explain why a large group of people would all ironically have theory reading groups and ironically support trans rights for years, even before federating with anyone else. What would they have to gain?
If I were you, I’d ask on an instance actually federated with them. You’ll get different perspectives than you will here, which is always the case when it comes to controversial topics like Marxism, where opinion varies greatly from instance to instance.
Left-Unity instance
I doubt it or I’d be over there. Instead, I got attacked and mocked by a circlejerking mob of angsty teens from Hexbear operating in bad faith for remotely questioning something about communism and then got permabanned from Lemmy.ml. I didn’t even attack it! 😂
Do you have a link? Would be interested to see.
Credit where credit is due, youre honest and youre correct. Have my upvote!
I try to be both, lol. Thanks!
ITT: everyone says they’re bad without giving any examples, telling you what to think instead of letting you form your own conclusions.
They’re decent people as long as you don’t argue politics with them… I think
Sometimes I like hexbear, agree with them and laugh with them, and sometimes their insular attitude makes me cringe. I am very critical of the democratic establishment in the US but hexbear’s “blueMAGA” talk is really offputting to me and sounds like the incel / redpill speak from parts of reddit and other online communities.
Given the liberal meltdown post election and inability to self reflect about the landslide loss, blue MAGA is entirely fitting.
Define Blue Maga for me, I haven’t seen a consistent explanation.
Anyone who thinks its the people that fail the party and not the other way around. So basically anyone who blames the people for not voting dem, instead of blaming the dems for not putting forth an appealing program that would represent the voters. You know, like in a democracy.
MAGA is a movement that glorifies a Hitler like figure who has promised to put tens of millions of honest workers in concentration camps because somehow immigrants are the cause of all their woes. These folks were both willing to deny any loss for any reason and willing to kill their neighbors in a civil war to “take their county back” if they lose.
“bluemaga” are people what mad that America’s Hitler won?
bluemaga were coming to the defense of Genocide Joe until the very last second and the only thing that made them switch was a bad TV performance. They didn’t care about the genocide, it was a bad TV performance that made them go “uuuh not a good look sweaty” and then they started rooting for the genocides second-in-command. They’re mad Hitler won because they were rooting for Mussolini
They’re mad Hitler won because they were rooting for Mussolini
Damn what a fucking burn right there. But they’ll still never get what the problem is, because they’re liberals and so long as the west keeps delivering treats to the well off coastal suburban liberal base the democrats can do nothing wrong. Genocide? What genocide? Trump will be worse! meanwhile trumps getting a ceasefire in place (which granted who knows if Israel will actually follow or if everyone’s full of shit) with the same conditions as the one biden offered months ago, only this time yahoo is agreeing to it. Liberal talking points aging like milk so far.
And for the record, I voted third party, and I’ll continue to drink liberal tears. The democrats would rather lose to a fascist than adopt leftist positions.
But they’ll still never get what the problem is, because they’re liberals and so long as the west keeps delivering treats to the well off coastal suburban liberal base the democrats can do nothing wrong.
I remember this comment https://lemmy.world/comment/10079489 because it’s such a good view into the average treatler brain. They believe Trump would be good for them but out of the kindness of their hearts they’re willing to sacrifice some imagined treats and those ethnicities better be grateful for it.
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Okay, that is legit hilarious and makes so much sense in retrospect.
haha love that
Why would supposed right-wingers be holding Leftist theory reading groups, hosting mutual aid comms, donating to Palestinian gofundmes, and supporting trans rights to some of the highest degrees on the fediverse? Irony? Seems like a silly hypothesis.
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I don’t see how that discounts anything, why would right wingers create a relatively isolated community to read Marxist and Anarchist theory, protect and advocate for trans rights, and frequently pin donation threads for Palestinians? Seems like way too much effort to be ironic, and defederating from other instances would hurt their supposed goal of “trolling.”
hosting mutual aid comms
I’ve seen those posts (I have no filter)… “I need money for rent” 🦗 🦗 🦗
I like horseshoe theory. Basically far-left and far-right come to be same extremistic pieces of shit that are more alike than not, e.g. Hitler(right) and Stalin(left).
