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    1. Trump threatens Nintendo with tariffs
    2. Nintendo doesn’t seem to GAF
    3. Trump says he’ll talk with Nintendo if they call
    4. Nintendo doesn’t call
    5. Trump cancels tariff, invites Nintendo CEO to lunch
    6. MAGA applauds Trump for saving America from something or other
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    With innocent people being illegally abducted and wrongfully deported to El Salvador, I am astounded that there is so much concern about the Nintendo Switch 2. Seriously people!! Where are the priorities? WTF?!

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      Like it or not (I do not), the most important determining factor in American elections is people’s feelings about the economy. The horrors being done by our government are easy to turn a blind eye to. But the cost of living is something that can’t be avoided or suppressed.

      Economic ruin is how we beat these motherfuckers.

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      My understanding is this has been the price of thousands of gaming communities enacting a “No politics” rule - people want to keep it external.

      “This fucking piece of actual trash! He’s using the most broken character this game has ever put out, and trash talking over it like he’s ever fucked a woman. Literally eat a dick. What do you think, chat?…Oh. Holy shit. Sorry, I just saw some stuff about Trump, listen, I’m sorry, but we don’t talk politics here. It can get really toxic.”

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      If the past few years have taught me ANYTHING, it’s that at least half the “gamers” are cheering the deportations on, so uh, yeah, anyway…

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      Some non-zero percent of people think the trafficking is fake news. Harder to disbelieve a cost you pay yourself.

      Others might think it’s normal deportation of undesirables. Harder to ignore something that affects you and yours.

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    Nintendo: “We also had to raise the price of digital games to $200.”

    “But tariffs don’t apply to digital games.”

    Nintendo: “Ah, yeah. Well, whenever you notice something like that, tariffs did it.”

    “But why does the rest of the world have to pay the price, too?”

    Nintendo: “TARIFFS!”

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      You‘re joking about it. I can hear the faint beeping of some LLM waiting to serve this to someone in power.

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        Tangential but was at the hospital for an Endo appointment with my son and chuckled in our waiting room “I bet there’s an old white guy in a suit right now going ‘but what if we made these waiting rooms smaller?’”

        Note. Room was already small.

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    That’s fine. Nintendo was already planning to impose the Nintendo tax. So I imposed the “I ain’t buyin’ this shit tax”.

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        Hopefully gamers get together and protest Trump out of office for artificially bumping up the costs of goods.

        Tarrifs = Tax

        A tax that working people pay, in the country that set the tarriff.

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            Probably gamers put him in office in the first place. Steve Bannon capitalized on Gamergate and started latching on to it to recruit young white male gamers to the far right. Then these GamerGate proponents became manosphere followers.

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              You say that but I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if gamers as a demographic are more liberal than average.

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                Maybe the general gaming public but probably not among capital G Gamers™ who are the loud minority on the internet.

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                  This article about a gaming console was posted in a gaming community and you’re complaining that the term “gamers” is being used too much? Which term would you prefer, game enthusiasts?

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        I don’t even want to imagine what is going to be the price for it here in Brazil. After the ps4 launched for nearly $2000 I haven’t even looked at any console retail prices here again.

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        Yeah I didn’t wanna pay that for a PS5. And the PS5 GPU alone is likely 5 times more power then what’s rumored to be in the switch 2… no way I’m paying that for a switch.

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        145% of 450 is 652, you add those together and it’s essentially 1100$. And that’s before tax at the register in the US.

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            Technically it isn’t.

            The company has a price for the product, importers import the product at that price (sometimes the importer will also be the manufacturer, but that doesn’t actually make a difference as far as the calculation is concerned), then some official shows up and demands an import tariff, the important pays the tariff.

            The shelf price is calculated as the total cost to the importer + a profit margin + sales tax. The tariff just gets lumped into the cost for the importer. Sales tax doesn’t make a distinction about how the price is arrived at.

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              Yes, technically correct and I am not disputing your points.

              But, we all know the cost of the tariff the local importer will need to pay the local government will be passed on to local consumers.

              My distinction and argument is if the government said “we will increase taxes on all products at your local grocery store by 145℅” people would flip. But when the wording become we will tariff “other countries” people forget who actually pays that tariff.

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      Thanks Trump for adding a 145% “tax” on my electronics. How am I supposed to afford anything now!?

      Guess I may as well just go protest instead.

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      I wasn’t going to get one even if it was £20, but how? Trump set the tariffs. Obviously it’s going to cost a shitload more if there is a 145% tariff in the US.

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    If Nintendo sues the Trump admin I’d have to finally side with Nintendo on a lawsuit.

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          To some extent I can understand since they’re expecting a certain ROI on the console which would include American sales, and therefore if American sales drop because of tariffs they need another way to make up that lost revenue.

          That being said I feel like it would be a mistake to make that up by increasing the price of the console for other markets too. In my opinion if American sales drop then they should pivot their focus to other markets until American leadership stabilizes, i.e. stops being an active detriment to the American economy and all the international companies involved in it. Which likely won’t happen until trump/his administration is out of office.

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          When it was impossible to get the PS5 for the first year(s) I just gave up. I have a PS4 and not only is it good enough for me, I hardly play it.

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          Yes, I could Pre-Order it right now for 469€, tax included.

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      In future history books: “…But the biggest exodus from the United States was after it was announced the Switch 2 would cost $1000 exclusively there.”

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        The price was going to be $499. A 145% tariff makes the price $1222.55. A 100% tariff would double the price and this is more than 100%.

        Looks like pretty steep inflation fueled by tariffs. I wonder how the Denies Reality Party (DeRPs) will spin it.

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    Sony: we‘ll make it a little more expensive for everyone else, so no one feels left out <3

    Nintendo: t(°-°t)

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      What you meant to say was
      Sony: we’ll let the whole world pay for the fascist bullshit the US is pulling <3

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        Let me fix that for you:

        Sony: we’ll let the whole world pay astronomical amounts of money because it makes us rich! And if someone calls us on it, we’ll say it’s all because of the US!

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      Sony: we‘ll make it a little more expensive for everyone else, so no one feels left out

      Let me fix that for you:

      Sony: We‘ll make it a little more expensive for everyone else so our US sales don’t sink harder than a brick in a pond.

      Companies really don’t care about people feeling left out. Company’s fear loss of sales. And that Trumps senseless antics by proxy of Sony make the PlayStation more expensive in my end of the world low key aggravates me, even if it’s only 50 bucks.

      America voted for this, we didn’t.

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        The saddest part is America didn’t vote for this either. Hell, most Americans didn’t vote at all… Absolutely stupid? Welcome to the US!

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      I would assume so, yea. They had stopped pre-orders in the US only when the tariffs were announced.

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        If they tried to spread the cost amongst everyone no one would buy the switch is already borderline unreasonably expensive. Limiting the price increase to only the tariffed country means they’ll only lose out on the American market not the everyone else in the world market, which is bigger.

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            It’s not more powerful than the steam deck.

            The steam deck is a portable computer the switch can only play switch games. Those games are hugely expensive, and the price is controlled by nintendo who infamously never decrease their game prices even after 10 years.

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            But I repeat myself.

            Seriously I just explained why they don’t have a choice, and you’re like, nah they’re still going to do it, even though I literally explained why that can’t happen. Did you even read my comment?

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              Oh, a random lemmygoer explained it? I guess there’s no opening for discussion then.

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                It’s not about discussion. There isn’t two opinions here there is the fact they’re not doing that and me explaining why they’re not doing that.

      • If the tariff is too great the cost becomes unspreadable. Spreading cost requires other regions to still afford the new price, and with numbers like this that’s unlikely.

        About one-third of Switches were sold in the US. Spreading a 145% tariff means hiking everyone’s prices by 40-50%. That will murder sales in other regions.

        Better to eat a 30% temporary loss that adds pressure on Trump to reverse-course than to eat an even higher loss and face backlash worldwide for making others pay for Trumps idiocy.

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          To add to this: I’m in a region where the base Switch 2 price is already very unaffordable when you compare it with our wages and cost of living. And then you throw in the games… which Nintendo conveniently left out prices of for us (they did list the bundle though, so I’m extrapolating from that). But Nintendo won’t care since we’re already a very small market. But if they did that in more markets to the point of being unaffordable in most places? Sales would crash. There’s a reason they have a cheap region locked variant for the Japanese market.

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    These tariffs shouldn’t be 145% of the retail price, they should be 145% of the wholesale price.

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      Well you see…

      “never let a good tragedy go to waste”

      • some asshole I don’t care to look up
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      It could be $50 and I still won’t buy it.

      Nintendo sucks and so do their games.

      PC gaming for life! Oh and steam deck 😊

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        I mean, hating on Nintendo is a good idea, but their games distinctly do not suck (at least most of them). They only suck in so far as you have to pay Nintendo in some form to legally acquire and play them.

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        Nintendo games are excellent games. Some of the highest quality games among AAA studios. What sucks is Nintendo as a company

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        It would be worth it if it cost $50. Of course it never would cost $50.

        It would be worth it if it cost the same as the first switch and if the games weren’t so expensive. There is a price point at which it is actually a good value product, but it’s so far beyond that price point now, even without tariffs.

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    I’m going to save so much money by not going to the US to buy one of those… I wonder what I’ll do with all that wealth.