Update: it took time. And then a quick pry with a knife. Saved the dishes. Ravioli saved too but for raccoons outside probably lol. What I learned about physics…sheesh.
Someone slept through physics class a few times.
Heat and/or cold would be your friend in this situation.
Personally I would just toss the whole thing in the freezer for the night, but there is a small chance that results in a broken plate in the morning.
If you have an air compressor a blast of air right against the lip of the bowl would probably also pop it off.
Other than that just run hot water over the bowl (or submerge it) and then get the plate cold while being careful to not have the hot water touch the cold plate or visa versa.
Best of luck soldier.
Wouldnt be the opposite? What’s keeping the plates together is vacuum. What it needs is to heat the gas inside to make it expand and reduce the vacuum
Let me walk you through my 3 different answers.
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Shrinking the bowl and the plate at the same time might just pop the seal when left in the freezer all night. It would only take a couple Crystal forming in the right spot to break that seal.
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Blasting air into the seal could potentially resolve the pressure difference holding the bowl to the plate or force enough air into the bowl that it actually builds positive pressure inside and that pops the bowl off as well.
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Heating the bowl would get it to expand slightly and cooling the plate would make it shrink slightly so doing them at the same time could cause the perfect seal they have formed to shift enough that it allows the pressure to equalize/release.
It’s less about heating the gas inside the bowl to reverse the vacuum and it’s more about breaking the seal that has formed in the first place.
But heating the gas inside would also work because, no matter how perfect the seal is, it won’t matter if there is no vacuum to hold the two pieces together.
This is the answer. Leave a hair dryer blowing at the thing for 5 or 10 minutes. It will heat the bowl, and also heat the air inside, which will expand.
Amazing. Thanks!
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The plastic was fused to the glass some how. I pryed it off and salvaged the plate. Also, I already tried all of that.
Oh you melted the plate to the bowl lol. That’s kinda impressive. It does make me wonder if your bowl was not dishwasher safe to begin with. Things shouldn’t be melting/fusing in the dishwasher.
*microwave and they are “reheat only” technically
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That really sucks.
an hour of prying
After that much work you should leave is as-is on your coffee table as an art/conversation piece.
Heat it to make the air expand
I have no idea what I’m looking at. Wth is a ravioli bowl? A bowl made specifically for ravioli?
Bowl of ravioli, my bad
congrats you now have an elevated plate
Microwave it on its side.
UPDATE PLEASE. I must know the fate of the dishes.
OP responded that he microwaved bowl and plate, and that some plastic melted and fused them both.
@[email protected] - can we get an after picture?
edit: context: https://programming.dev/post/28471691/16271644
I don’t think I’m your guy haha. I do not have a ravioli bowl unfortunately.
Thank you! I was WAY too invested in this!
It has been 6 hours since OP created the ravioli black hole that will eventually consume our planet. I think of all the wasted years I spent worrying as oblivion heads my way.
OP pls….
No one is going to mention that OP has a bowl specifically for ravioli?
I think it’s just a bowl currently full of ravioli
No issues with either one of these options tbh
Well how do you cook ravioli? In your fettuccine bowl?
Pour it onto a dish rag and microwave it? I thought this was common knowledge?
…in a pot?
Ew, what’s wrong with you
But which pot?
Not my oatmeal pot, or the spaghetti pot
Obviously you need to consider how much ravioli you’re making when choosing which ravioli pot to take down from your ravioli pot shelf.
Definitely not the macaroni pot
These jokes about different pots for each meal are funny until you live with a hoarder for awhile who must have enough pots to cook each food in its own (even though they use the same pot or pan for everything they cook). Ugh it sucked lol
I’m confused why there is a plate involved at all.
I would guess he had the plate over the bowl, while he was microwaving it, to prevent the little sauce splatters during heating.
I hope OP learned to use a paper/dish towel from now on if that’s the case lmao
Hot air cooled, contracted, and created partial vacuum is my guess. Make it hot again and it will unstick, I bet.
I was gonna suggest just running hot tap water over it for a few minutes until the air inside expanded enough.
Or chuck it in the freezer!
And shrink the air more?
No, but the items will get slightly smaller, eventually making an air gap you geniuses.
You do this with crankshafts for example, to get the bearings off so I’m not pulling stuff out of my behind.
Yeah but those are different alloys with different thermal expansion and a significantly larger temperature differential and a friction fit, this is a vacuum issue
Seems OP sorted it out without your help so yeah …
Yeah, everyone knows that ceramic has more thermal reactivity than air, so the plate will slide right off /s
Cool one slightly while warming the other.
Probably sit the bowl in warm water with ice on the plate. That will increase the pressure inside and aide in the separation.
Would you want the opposite?
I thought heading the bowl will expand it slightly and increase the suction, cooling it will shrink it and reduce it.
Hot air expands and cold air contracts. You want the air in the bowl to be hot so it’s not creating negative pressure.
I did not think of that, thanks!
Its the same thing that happens with fridges and freezers. But they have become better at equaling the pressue.
PV=nRT https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law
Change in temperature (T) means a change in volume and/or pressure
The air inside is what is causing the vacuum heat the air, expansion, less vacuum. Cool the air, shrinks, more suction.
Heating both likely the smoothest solution.
Thanks! I had not factored that in
I could be wrong, but I really believe heating the bowl is the correct answer.
Why would you want to cool the plate?
You want to create expansion in one and shrinkage in the other so that you have movement that helps break the seal. Technically you could do one or the other, but it’ll create more net change if you do both.
No, warm the whole thing to heat the air inside
The McDLT solution
Put the whole thing in a pot of water and start bringing it to a slow simmer. This will warm the air inside, expanding it and breaking the suction. I got my stuck blender jar open this way, taking it out as soon as the first tiny bubble escaped and quickly unscrewing it before it could cool.
Hot ass water
Edit: Clarification: Poor hot ass water on it or dunk it in hot ass water
Edit 2, electric boogaloo: This is dependent on the material, according to my mother
Instructions unclear, bowl still stuck to plate, but is now covered in sexy posterior dihydrogen monoxide.
My water is too bougie and I can’t morally exploit it into poverty… Elevated plate it is.
Can I use regulat hot water if I don’t have access to the ass water?
Ass water can easily made yourself. No need to get expensive store bought ass water
Yeah but KFC or Jack in the box isn’t as cheap as it used to be, the only cheap way to make it requires Taco bell now.
No, it must be from the ass.
Shit.
No, water.
Nope. It has to come straight from the starfish
Why does he need to rob the hot water first?
It had it coming
By “ravioli bowl,” do you mean it currently has ravioli in it? If so, put it in the microwave for increments of like 30 seconds.
Pick which one to save and which one to sacrifice. Smash the sacrifice with a hammer to free the other, break them both and realize this is just so like you and every single thing you try to do starts with a half baked plan, then goes off the rails and ruins everything until you’ve nothing to do but pick up the pieces.
I’m the kind of person who reads step 1, does it, and then goes on to read step 2. I’m happy I’m not OP.