• auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    Probably more to do with the mass delusion and post truth world we live in.

    And yes, enabling the greater evil is a failing of the people who voted against their interests because less evil wasn’t good enough.

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      3 months ago

      enabling the greater evil is a failing of the people who voted against their interests

      Democrats enabled the greater evil by ignoring the interests of the constituencies they needed to win. It doesn’t matter if the lesser evil is objectively the right choice - they still need millions of people to go to the booth and make that choice, and nobody has more control over voter enthusiasm than the democrats themselves.

      This is nobody’s fault but the democrats.

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        3 months ago

        Democrats enabled the greater evil by ignoring the interests of the constituencies they needed to win.

        Because they didn’t cut ties with Israel? There’s no reality in which America is going to break up with their most important ally in the Middle East. Did you want Democrats to lie that they’d break ties so they could win and then go back on that promise? Flip flopping like that is what leads a country to having exactly zero allies.

        I guess they had faith in Americans to be informed enough to know that despite not being perfect, they’re INFINITELY better than Republicans. But that faith was 100% misplaced because Americans, my friend, are DUMB.

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          3 months ago

          Because they didn’t cut ties with Israel?

          Because - far from ‘cutting ties’ with Israel - they actively shielded them from international accountability and continued supplying them with the bombs they were (and are still) dropping on Palestinian children

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        3 months ago

        They did enable the greater evil, but it was voters who ultimately put them in office, not Democrats. The buck stops with the voters. Or it did - they made sure it won’t any more.

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          3 months ago

          it was voters who ultimately put them in office

          Guess I’ll just repeat myself:

          “they still need millions of people to go to the booth and make that choice, and nobody has more control over voter enthusiasm than the democrats themselves”

          If you want to play games with abstracting agency away from the people who had control of the entire situation, go nuts. But not only did the democrats have every opportunity to make the case for themselves, but they also dug the grave they’re now laying in by building their platform around AIPAC money (and large corporate donors) to begin with.

          The democrats simply cannot win with the political machine they’ve constructed anymore.

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            3 months ago

            Congratulations on helping trump win. You’re partially responsible when Gaza goes bye bye. Not the Dems.

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              3 months ago

              You realize the person you’re responding to LITERALLY believes the same about you, right?

              That’s their entire point.

              Throwing a not-that-pithy “This is all your fault” won’t even phase them. Would it phase you if they did it to you?

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              3 months ago

              Congratulations on helping trump win.

              If all it took for trump to win was a handful of internet weirdos to loudly oppose an active genocide then maybe the democrats were never going to win in the first place.

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        3 months ago

        That is literally the fucking opposite of how voting works. You only got two choices for a winner here Biden or trump and not voting Biden = trump.

        You guys seem to think there’s a 3rd option here.

        First past the post voting literally shows otherwise. You are a fool.

      • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        Individuals are reponsible for their actions. They didn’t need to support the dems just have a spine and vote against Trump.