The language used is super interesting. “Defying Elon Musk”
Defying. A terrifying word, yet appropriate.
Musk has no position in the Wisconsin state government. He’s not a constituent. You shouldn’t be able to “defy” him because he has no position of authority.
Yet they used the word “defying” and it’s terrifyingly the correct word.
People who got money to vote should be named and shamed.
From here:
It was a pledge to vote, not legally binding. A lot of desperate people these days, and I can’t say I wouldn’t try to scam elon out of a million bucks if given the opportunity. “Sure sure, I’ll totally vote how you want Mr Musky sir. Make sure you spell my name right on the check now.”
Yeah my internet history alone would eliminate me from that running.
The winners are “pre selected”. Thats how his bullshit workaround works. Its been admitted. But for the uninformed, it sounds like a lottery.
It isnt.
even if a communist or anarchist or whatever tried to play the game and if it were a true lottery, you would be committing a far worse disservice by keeping quiet at this point.
Stay quiet and maybe get a million. Its the democrat way if you look at our current dem politicians… do you really want to be like them right now?
Every lottery run by private business is not a lottery but transfer of money from gullible to someone’s friends and family.
Could buy a lotta drones 🌻
Even so, the point of such laws is to be as impartial as possible. That’s not possible once people start accepting stuff. Doesn’t matter if they can still technically not vote.
It’s not because it’s guaranteed to sway votes, but because it could.
Understandable.
it should be illegal. that’s bribery
It’s already illegal. Unless the rich do it, of course.
Pisses me off they get no accountability. when if you or I did it we would be locked up imminently.
We face legal justice. They face vigilante justice.
All we need is someone willing to pull the trigger and skilled enough to hit their target.
And willing to die in prison or be executed. That makes the numbers much smaller.
Yet not zero.
Or live long enough for a pardon.
Unless I have the law wrong, he skirted the law. He didn’t pay anyone to vote (although he originally said he was), he technically only paid them to sign a petition. The law afaik only says you can’t pay people to vote (regardless of who, in Wisconsin you straight up cannot pay people to vote at all), you can pay them to sign a petition.
However I would argue that by first announcing that the money would go only to people who voted and then subtly changing it later is still totally a form of bribery. People absolutely voted for a chance at that money because of his original statement and didn’t know it changed. But I’m going to go out on a limb here and say he’ll be 100% fine because of technicalities (aka he’s rich as shit and is completely untouchable)
He paid people to vote, that’s just very clearly what he did.
You’re making a legal claim, and that claim that should be examined closely in court to establish its veracity. For example, I disagree with your analysis. I think that everyone understands what’s actually being offered: money for a vote. I think that a jury could convict, and that there is probable cause to arrest and charge right now.
And the reasoning is quite simple, right? You want to give money for the vote but you know that would be illegal so instead you say something that’s almost the same as the vote and then wink a few times. Everyone has communicated clearly. Everyone knows exactly what they’re supposed to do, and why. Just because you wrote down some words cleverly on paper doesn’t change the causes or effects.
But that’s my opinion, and I’m not a judge in that state. Neither are you. Neither are any of us here in the comment section. That’s why it ought to go before a judge in that state.
Well you can read it here, the Wisconsin Supreme Court’s four liberal and three conservative justices unanimously declined to hear the case, without elaborating further.
Some of those people probably took the money and voted Democrat anyway.
If someone was trying to bride me for a vote I’d take their money and still vote for whoever I wanted.
What’s he going to do? Look over my shoulder and verify who I voted for?
Still, it probably has a chilling ef fect. Voting Dems becomes like a secret you have to keep rather than something you should shout from the roofs - less likely to make that post on social media, put up a sticker or a sign, tell your friend and family etc.
It’s not legally binding though. You could absolutely shout from the rooftops how you got Elon’s money and now you’re voting Dem, and encourage people to do the same. If enough people brag openly about doing it, it would be terribly humiliating for Elon.
And risk your own personal safety? That’s a terrible idea.
Point taken.
I almost guarantee he canceled those checks the second she won.
no doubt.
I think he is skirting the law by having the payments be for signing a petition tangential to a vote, but not directly about voting. It’s scummy to say the least, and if you did sign, you’ll probably get spam calls and mail for the rest of your life. At least in this case, the outcome was that Elon didn’t get his preferred candidate to win, he’s wasting money paying people to get on his mailing list, and now when Tesla’s Wisconsin case gets to the state supreme court, Crawford will be on the court
M.U.S.K. (Make United States Kneel). How one South African tried to topple the american superpower.
Eat shit Musk.
This is the best news in 7 months
Hell yeah!!! Fuck you!
I hope elon cries tonight, and hates its life now
55% to 45%
Still 45% too many idiots
Massive Blow Out.
A mandate even.
A Mandate to tell Elon to eat shit.
Jesus. Turns out bribery has a cost o.o
Eat Shit Elon Wasted 20 million for nothing.
If we would assume that musk’s wealth is $400,000 then spending $20m is just $20.
To us this is massive amount for him it is $20.
And he bought US president for just $300.
If we would assume that musk’s wealth is $400,000
Hopefully with Tesla stock crashing, this can be a reality
Hope so too, unfortunately SpaceX apparently is worth even more and we don’t have as much influence in their revenue.
hopefully it will be $0.00000
Damn, that’s a lot of zeroes. How do you even pronounce that? Brazillion? Vermillion? /s
Nullion
Fine, he lost twenty bucks then, Im thrilled.
I hope the anxiety causes him to smoke his entire ketamine stash in one sitting.
You smoke ket??
I honestly have no idea lol.
You’re the second person to call out my narc ass.
There’s a way to smoke ketamine? I don’t know, I just ate it once and apparently it was the wrong way to do it
I think people like him are so addicted to power and wealth, that I wouldn’t be surprised he would off himself if net worth would drop to millions.
Though with that much of wealth, I think no matter what he will do he will be a billionaire.
If we ever restore democracy, we need to concentrate on destroying oligarchies, apparently this already happened twice.
Technically his total wealth has declined to about $342 Bn, and technically that is only if he sold off all of his assets namely his Tesla stocks, at which point it would instantly become less than $342 Bn due to the market’s fast acting supply/demand price setting.
At any given time you should assume Musk has less than $30 Bn liquidity, which is still a fucking lot.
Also, he bought Twitter so you can say he spent a lot more than $300 to elect Trump. $300 was just his campaign contributions.
It’s okay. He still has billions more to piss away.
Get fucked fascists
No one wants Elons Sieg heil shit.
The Empire was fought to a standstill, and Lady Crawford Organa took her seat on the high judicial council.
Or maybe it’s just the judicial council. I dunno. I’m high.
But well done Wisconsin - the force was fucking with you today!
You know it sort of looked like that tonight lol
Wait till we learn how much the Luigi trial jurors are paid to hang him.
It’s small, but this is definitely a win worth celebrating.
For Wisconsin itself, it’s huge. It keeps breathing room available at the state level.
Prediction: Trump will come out saying that Cory Booker’s record-breaking speech was a smokescreen to distract from the fact that George Soros was stealing votes in this election.
I wish I wasn’t serious.
Elon you can shove it where the sun don’t shine.
