Summary

The Senate confirmed Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence in a 52-48 vote, with only Sen. Mitch McConnell breaking GOP ranks to oppose her.

Critics, including Democrats and some Republicans, raised concerns over her past meeting with Syria’s Assad, sympathetic comments on Russia, and prior support for Edward Snowden.

Gabbard reversed her stance on key intelligence policies during her confirmation.

  • kescusay@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Imagine pretending that you won’t be first in front of the firing squad, “queermunist.” If it gets as bad as it can get, you’ll never have a chance to celebrate the “destruction of the US empire.”

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      17 hours ago

      No one is going to be lined up for a firing squad because of Tulsi Gabbard. She’s just going to ruin the US intelligence community, which is easily one of the most evil institutions on Earth. This is literally the only good nomination, she’s perfect.

      I’m more worried about the dipshits running the FDA and HHS into the ground ensuring bird flu becomes pandemic. How long until they make raw milk mandatory in school lunches? 🤮

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        17 hours ago

        I didn’t say it would be specifically because of Tulsi, what I’m saying is that when a country like this one implodes, people in targeted minority groups end up on the receiving end of violence.

        Fucking accelerationists, always pretending they won’t suffer when everyone else does. On behalf of my trans son and my gay daughter, fuck them all for celebrating the destruction of the country my kids (currently) live in, kids who will inevitably be on the receiving end of hate.

        Naive fucking idiots.

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          17 hours ago

          The empire collapsing is not the same as the country collapsing and the empire must be destroyed for future of humanity. The US, as a country, can absolutely survive without being an empire. I’m celebrating the death of a death machine.

          We don’t have to let our home be destroyed and we should stand up to Trump’s regime on domestic issues. I’m hardly an accelerationist. I’m trans! They’re gonna fucking kill me and I’m not celebrating that. But I am a revolutionary defeatist. In cases like this, where the empire is being destroyed and dismantled by people like Tulsi Gabbard, we should be happy it’s not worse.

          Don’t confuse the country for the empire. They’re not really the same thing.

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            15 hours ago

            The empire collapsing is not the same as the country collapsing and the empire must be destroyed for future of humanity. The US, as a country, can absolutely survive without being an empire. I’m celebrating the death of a death machine.

            No, you’re celebrating the death of a country. If the government of the United States collapses, that literally is the end of the country. It cannot survive that. It’ll shatter into at least 50 pieces, and a lot of people will die. It’s naivety of the worst sort to pretend that somehow society will march on without a fucking government.

            Don’t confuse the country for the empire. They’re not really the same thing.

            Fucking accelerationists and their ridiculous view of human nature.

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              The government isn’t going to collapse just because Tulsi Gabbard is pro-Snowden and anti-NATO.

              What will collapse are the overseas assets and transational corporations and military bases and intelligence assets and NGOs and US-lead task forces and all the other shit that Tulsi Gabbard is going to be responsible for - as in, the most evil shit on Earth.

              The empire will collapse. The government is going to be fine.

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            16 hours ago

            Hate to say it, but I don’t think that the downfall of the American hegemony would go well for queer folks, even a fucked up as it is. To a certain extent, global power IS a zero sum game. Especially in the context of Tulsi Gabbard, who seems to be aligned with Russian interests. If American influence wanes, that vacuum will get filled by soft power coming from Russia, China, or some combination thereof. Neither of them are huge fans of the queers.

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              15 hours ago

              They just see queer people as Western decadence/bourgeois moral decay etc. If the US reverses position, they will too.

              Also, we fought for our rights before and won. We’ll do it again. We don’t need to ally ourselves with an evil empire.

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                What? You’re saying if America becomes less accepting of gay people, Russia will become more accepting? Like, having a pride parade in retaliation?

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                  Gay marriage started getting legalized in the US in 2004. In 2006, Russia began distributing anti-LGBT propaganda. In June 2013, the Supreme Court of the United States struck down DOMA and Russia began to criminalize the distribution of pro-LGBT materials to minors. People in Russia really to believe that queer people are a myth made up by Western ideology.

                  There’s almost a direct relationship - as we were more accepted in the US, Russia became more queerphobic.

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                  14 hours ago

                  Yes, that’s exactly what queermunist is saying. And like all accelerationist ideas, it’s naive as fuck.

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        She’s not bad for the job because she’s incompetent though. She’s bad because she’s compromised and willing to say whatever she needs to say to advance her own interests and the interests of her patrons (Trump definitely, Modi and Putin maybe).

        Intelligence was lied about to get us into the Iraq War and Gabbard has been super is hawkish about the drone war. She’s going to lead to more of that, not dismantle the institution. Get ready for manufactured intelligence about how Gaza has dirty bombs built by Iran and transported through the Suez Canal for some reason.

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          Has she been hawkish? I’m not seeing that - I see she once said she supports “very limited use of drones” and that’s it. Well, and also that time she condemned Trump when he illegally droned Qassem Soleimani.

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          She’s bad because she’s compromised and willing to say whatever she needs to say to advance her own interests and the interests of her patrons (Trump definitely, Modi and Putin maybe).

          Joke’s on you; the tankie troll you’re feeding is into that shit.

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        I appreciate this take, thanks. It’s conceivable that the US intelligence community does some good in the world, but holy fuckin’ crap it’s inarguable that they do a lot of damage. Putting an absolute fool in charge of intelligence will probably be a disaster, but US intelligence is already a disaster. I’m more concerned about what Trump is doing to (virtually every) other function of government.