• MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Please stop saying over 50% voted for this. A third of the electorate didn’t vote. Yeah, fuck them, they could have stopped this, but it makes it sound like more than half of my country wants him to be president. More likely it’s 30-40%

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      5 days ago

      That’s true, but in the liberal mindset, the majority gives you the moral mandate (liberal as in capitalist democracy, not derogatory). That the news and social media is owned and controlled by the oligarchs doesn’t matter to the liberal mindset. Even cheating like gerrymandering didn’t trigger riots and hanging of the culprits. It doesn’t matter that they promised one thing but lied, that has been accepted for decades also.

      So within this mindset the majority spoke and has the mandate for this crap. Practically morality is determined by who has the most money / power. We accepted that greed is good. So it doesn’t matter that the election was cheated, elections in the US have always been a farce, a spectacle. But it is effective to get those institutions in line.

      So I agree with you and think all the US elections in the last 50 years were illegitimate. But those institutions don’t, they simply follow this liberal mindset.

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          I’m inclined to believe it, but to know with enough confidence today you need academic sources and hindsight. But that would just be the natural progression of what the US has accepted for decades. In any case the mainstream doesn’t dispute the election, because Trump was smart enough to do that first (projection). So the reason why institutions obey the new order is because there is no alternative, and no ideological imperative to resist.

          BTW here is an interesting analysis of the ideology of the techbro’s backing Trump, who actually do want to destroy the US. I’m kinda shocked how well this explains things, and haven’t found a good written article yet (but haven’t been looking).

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            5 days ago

            I haven’t watched the video yet but I didn’t want to forget. Someone on Lemmy linked this article in a reply to me and I hope it’s what you’re looking for. It spells everything out and even has a little bit of hope in it. It’s quite well written to boot.

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              Thanks for linking the article but the video talks about the “techbro ideology” that fuels at least some of their thoughts and actions. They want to create a kind of feudalism where billionaires can rule fiefdoms without interference however they want, a tech utopia for the worthy. I don’t know though how much they actually believe in this shit, but they associate or at least flirt with it. So the billionaires and tech-bro’s are not fascist or idiots, they are using fascism as a tool.

              Trump is also not an idiot, he doesn’t think he can buy greenland, he just throwing shit at the camera lens. Every day has to be a new outrage and own the libs. No politicians ever cared about abortion, it’s a wedge issue to increase power. The cruelty is the point but it does serve a purpose, because you can’t have a functioning democracy without peace, modest prosperity and education / news. We are still “flailing” which is what MAGA wants.

              The article doesn’t seem to understand these tactics, nor the strategic goals they want to achieve. Or maybe doesn’t communicate for brevity.