• webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
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    1 month ago

    I just realized. Windows 10 is being shelved but there is only one version ahead of it.

    I remember xp still being considered good when i had win 8 installed.

    How is that not understood as as a blatant attempt to maximize user control?

    Actually looking at the numbers xp and 8.1 retired within 2 years of eachother. And 10 first got retired in 2020 a year before win 11 was released to make way of windows as a service updates which is actually what is getting retired later this year.

    Microsoft kindly please get your shit together… or dont and strengthen my work requests to migrate systems to Linux.

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      1 month ago

      Microsoft is a lot more aggressive with EoLing it’s Windows versions now exactly because XP lived so long. It was an absolute pain for them to maintain and support that for so long and they’ve made very sure they don’t repeat that experience.

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      No, it isn’t. They don’t disable Office on Windows 10 on that date.
      They just don’t take Windows 10 into account anymore in developing updates to the office apps.
      Which means those apps might stop working at some point if an update to them happens to break Windows 10 compatibility.

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        1 month ago

        When Win 11 is such a hostile experience for privacy, yeah it still is out of spite, just for different reasons. I’m so glad to be rid of Windows in my home.

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    For those about to switch, welcome to Linux! If you have AMD hardware give Linux Mint a shot. If you have NVIDIA, Pop!_OS is worth your first install.

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      Pop_OS is a good alternative. I still believe that most non-gaming adults would be happy with Firefox and LibreOffice on Linux.

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    The harder MS tries to force Win11 on me the clearer it becomes how bad it is.

    I will move to another office suit,install, and learn a completely new OS like Linux after 40 years of Windows before I ever install their unnecessary and untrustworthy data-miner.

    Win10 was bad but most of it could be removed/worked around. This time it’s clearly war against typical users so F it I’m out.

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      It’s not difficult to block the mining and telemetry. Pihole, a few registry tweaks, a few scheduled tasks disabled and life goes on.

      Folk see nothing wrong with spending hours tuning a Linux distro, but they object to doing the same with Windows?

      FWIW I use vanilla Debian for everything other than what I’m required to use Windows for.

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        It’s a constantly moving target. Yeah, you might block everything today, but then a windows update comes along and, poof, a bunch of the data harvesting is back on. I hope you were checking the detailed patch notes every time an update installs!

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          Ah yes, that’s a concern - but I have a job in Task Scheduler that re-writes my registry tweaks - mostly changing various tasks back to “disabled”. You can trigger it hourly, or on an event. As soon as a selected event - such as a telemetry switch-on - hits the event log, the “disable” script runs.

          There’s other ways, like taking ownership of the executables and changing permissions to lock out the “SYSTEM” account.

          And pihole blocks DNS resolution of the telemetry harvesters as well. Windows update won’t touch that. It’s not 100% effective, but I couldn’t be bothered to take it further.

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    I’ll use Windows 10 and pay for the updates for years while using old versions of office. Fuck Windows 11.

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    No thanks, it takes excel 2-3 seconds to load a blank document, which pisses me off every time.

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    So what’s the news here? Win 10 support ends in october. Doesn’t that automatically mean that they will also not support office apps running on Win 10 starting october?

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    That’s when Windows 10 stops getting security updates. Expect most software vendors to drop support for Windows 10 this year if they haven’t already. That doesn’t necessarily mean things will stop working, but it will not be tested and they won’t spend time fixing Win10-specific problems.

    In enterprise, you can get an additional three years of “extended security updates”. That’s your grace period to get everyone in your org upgraded.

    While I strongly relate to anyone who hates Windows 11, “continue using Windows 10 forever” was never a viable long-term strategy.

    Windows 10 was released in 2015. Ten years of support for an OS is industry-leading, on par with Red Hat or Ubuntu’s enterprise offerings and far ahead of any competing consumer OS. Apple generally only offers three years of security updates. Google provides 3-4 years of security updates. Debian gets 5 years.

    There has never been a time in the history of personal computing when using an OS for over 10 years without a major upgrade was realistic. That would be like using Windows 3.1 after XP was released. Windows 10 is dead, and it’s been a long time coming.

    Now go download Fedora.