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Yes that’s another really good point. Any sort of foreign support from Russia or China or Europe that brings weapons in would mean a permanent thorn in their side, Canada wouldn’t see peace for decades, if at all. Similar to the quagmire in Afghanistan and Iraq.

That’s in addition to how easily we could strike at their home territory in cross border raids, which will be even more unacceptable domestically.

It’s the world’s longest border, a military defeat is certain but hundreds or thousands of Canadian partisans will easily get through to commit acts of terrorism and sabotage.

There’s a difference between punching up and punching down, there’s a difference between critique of the ruling class that’s doing the oppressing and the marginalized classes that are being oppressed. The fact that there is nuance doesn’t mean that no true statements can be made.

You’re not going to change your mind and I don’t care what you think, but believe it or not your kneejerk elementary school level reasoning isn’t the gotcha you think it is… People study, philosophize, and debate these things all the time, and surprisingly the prevailing argument isn’t that we need to have some kind of libertarian shithole existence.

You could try educating yourself about these topics, but SOMEHOW I think you’re more likely to be on the side trying to ban these topics from schools.

hmmm yes it’s impossible to tell when speech is harmful to oppressed groups the only option is to pretend all speech is the same

No, that’s not what that means at all. Tyranny of the majority is exactly what you have now where it’s ok to speak hate towards minority groups. What Orwellian shit is this conversation?

I’m telling you that the freedom from oppression and well-being of everyone needs to be guaranteed, and that means resisting hate and fascists with censorship and violence if needed. The freedom to oppress isn’t freedom.

Freedom to use hate speech to harm minorities isn’t the kind of freedom I’m after. How about freedom for everyone to be themselves without being marginalized?

Liberal ideology is full of these freedoms to oppress. Capitalists dictatorially control workers and the economy, hate speech is kosher, everyone has the freedom to try to find a job that can allow them to afford shelter.

How about people are guaranteed a basic standard of life? How about oppression is opposed?

Collective freedom is more important than individual freedom.

This is one of the many ways liberalism leads to fascism