jackeryjoo

no?

It is sad, but imagine if he wasn’t involved in our democracy at all. I suspect things would be even worse.

I love your great country :) Trying to move there :) In the process right now.

Gotta get out of this fucking hellhole that the US has turned into.

Are you on Lemmy? Yes? Then you’re just shooting fish in a barrel on that one.

None of us are using Lemmy because we agree with the status quo out there.

And your question is still fundamentally flawed.

We don’t get to vote for a candidate for the US of A that has the Palestinian people at the front of their agenda.

The Palestinian people who are not US citizens do not get a vote at all. Those that are US citizens chose to throw away their vote so they’re in the same camp as those who are not US citizens for the sake of the conversation/argument.

So, of the candidates that were presented, you have to choose the lesser of the two Evils (LEV) to have the greatest chance of accomplishing your goals, even if none of the options specifically further your goals. It’s about limiting the fallout/damage to your goals as much as possible.

This is something the Palestinian people who were US citizens chose not to do.

It is now why they are facing a much more serious threat from the US than they were during Biden’s administration. This is not to absolve the Biden/Harris administration, but to show that the reason things are worse now, is because, in large part, the Palestinian people who were US citizens chose the worse of the two options by not exercising their right to vote.

At no point in the process was there an option that would have accomplished what the Palestinian people would have wanted. To let the greater evil win because of that is going to be a very, very painful lesson for everyone involved, and I feel for the Palestinian people that are now going to be guaranteed to lose their home, their rights, and their freedoms because the new US Administration has even less respect and care for their rights than Biden’s.

So, back to your question.

The flaw is in assuming there was another option other than the LEV scenario playing out, and that the Palestinian people who were not US citizens had a vote here. They did not. They do not have enough power, militaristicly speaking, to have autonomy over their own region, and are unfortunately at the mercy of Israel and their close allies (e.g. the USA right now), to control their fate/future.

They had some influence, in the form of Palestinian Americans and allies who could have voted and chosen a less evil/less terrible path ahead, and they flubbed things in the name of making a point. A point that has had little to no impact, and in fact has galvanized a lot of Americans and the world against them because their poor decision during the US election is going to affect everyone in the world. There is nowhere they can run to, or will be safe from the reach of trump’s US imperialism.

Your question is therefore flawed. It assumes the Palestinian people had any option other than Kamala to give them the best possible scenario forward. To claim otherwise is to be ignorant of the world, and the facts of the situation. Just because we all agree that having “no choice” sucks and isn’t fair, doesn’t mean refusing to vote and letting the worst option (by far) on the table win is anything more than disappointingly idiotic.

And that’s where we’re at now.

As a Coloradoan, I approve of being sold to Denmark.

That’s correct. This is what they want. Drive stocks down, do a bunch of buybacks, scrap the tariffs, watch line go back up, profit.

This is such a thought terminating question being posed in bad faith.

You can respect and support the Palestinian people, and still realize that Harris was the best option for the Palestinians we had on the table. To not vote was giving a vote to trump, and trump is significantly worse than Harris for the Palestinians, this is objective truth, we have the facts in front of us right now.

Not voting was essentially voting against the Palestinian people.

Is it fair that we had the choices we had in November? No.

But the protest vote just turned into voting for this century’s Mussolini and a guy who’s doing his damnedest to start WW3.

Which seems…antithetical to the purpose of the protest vote? So who really won here?

aka, Fascists. The lot of them.

As is anyone defending or supporting president musk.

If someone was doxxing you on bluesky, for example, and in the doxxing, you got attacked/injured by someone who recognized you/went to your house.