Yes sorry, it’s perfect. :)

Yep but considering your activities, you can tell them more about PieFed and Mbin. It will help reach a more balanced software’s use. :)

It doesn’t matter, true. We can see every comments in a crossposted post. But on the other hand Blaze is also right. :)

I told him the same thing about its lemmy repport that i wished something less lemmy centric. :)

Thank for your feedback.

Maybe you can tell them ? I’m giving feedback to piefed dev on their UI, suggesting ideas is also part of PieFed’s development. :)

Well, i thought the same about rust and python. i’m not a dev and lack understanding on their component.

My opinion became more nuanced with Lemmy. I have read there spike in ressource usage with lemmy on server.

So, I believe the language matter but also its features, the way you think how people will use it. Its core design.

When you manage a social network, the most fondamental feature is the moderation board. I find this area is lacking on Lemmy. Crosspost ? Duplicate everywhere, on my timeline, i get 4-5 time the same post…so i believe it miss some design thinking.

From what i see, the various lemmy-bot (most of them are written in python i think ?) and alternative frontend are improving lemmy experience. For example, how do you add an mod with lemmy-web-ui ?

I also believe that being written in Rust make it harder for new devs to help. But in later time we will see a change.

I’m not sure if it answer part of your question, but there are area where lemmy can improve : https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/09/comparing-network-utilization-of-lemmy-kbin-and-piefed/

Yes, you are right. Mbin is far more advanced than Lemmy. And PieFed more avanced than Lemmy, less then Mbin.

There are lot neat features in Mbin and PieFed so i wish we consider all options before pushing Lemmy everywhere. I also wish more app support from both of them.

I wish we try to remain neutral because, i strongly believe that the 3 softwares can inspire each other.

Dunno what you were talking about. i’m only guessing with pseudo comment. Yes the issue could be written in english to share the problem to everyone.

However on other hand, i think it’s a good place to talk in other langage than english. That’s almost the first time i read sentence like that. English there and there, and your language is almost inexistant on internet.

Maybe we should do more effort toward bilingual writting ? :)

Ah j’étais pas fou, merci 😅

Well we would miss lot interesting topics from Mastodon. You may not see the point because english user base is big.

Most of our french user base stayed on Reddit or use Mastodon. Art ? Mastodon. News ? Mastodon…

So how can we solve that ? On Mastodon, i found lot user posting interesting links. Our left french media are also on mastodon. Should be able to crosspost them here ? :)

I went on mastodon, created an account, copy-pasta posted news on various communities, I used hashtag and some users commented on jlai.lu

It does works but we need to allow the users the freedom to be followed or not. If they want to be followed, they can follow mastodon users. And that would be the first step to break “locked” software as reddit, twitter.

We are more open then Reddit but, for me, i think we are replicating proprietary software organisation. We are still creating clone of twitter, reddit whereas we use a protocole that allow us to achieve much more things.

Shouldn’t we try something else where lines between various software is blurred ?

I’m not on mastodon social, i use it on

• peculiar.florist an iceshrimp instance and their dev team want to support PieFed, Lemmy and Mbin
• mastodon.tedomum.net and mastodon.zaclys.com they both belong to a collective of hosters.

And hashtag work well. I have a list where i follow hashtag as if i had a community around this keyword.

If mastodon supported group, they would include lemmy, mbin, piefed support. We can remplace a.gup.pe

On masto that helped me finding new people or thematic discussion. It may not work very well but it does work with boost. From what i was able to achieve with it, it’s an amazing tool 😊

Yeah i do agree but sadjy, there is a reason some of us call it lemmyverse. We can see mastodon’s content.

Since Lemmy doesn’t really support hashtag, the core of mastodon discoverability, I think switching to a new software is better.

PieFed plan to support Mastodon this year. They already do it somewhat : you can follow PieFed user and a.gup.pe work well. You can also follow comment or post by setting up an alert.

Currently, only mbin can do that.

Maybe you can show that, we don’t alway federate with every instance, with several drawing of this cloud network.

That’s also part of our freedom :)

Okay, thank a lot i understand better. Perfect. :)

We use crosspost for english meme however a multi-meme community will solve it. If we regroup them in a topic, we won’t need crosspost.

I wanted to use it for Peertube. The only problem i see is that [comment on a crosspost] won’t post comment on the peertube video.

And if we comment their video, that would solve peertube problem : they have no comments on their video.

That’s why i recommand our instance moving to Piefed, it provides a better experience each update.

It is not ready yet for daily users. it will be difficult as there is no mobile app, but there is so much improvement…

So fell free to give your feedback to PieFed. :)

So that’s why cross-post won’t be available everywhere ? Only certain use case ?

True, i know that users prefers mobile app over web mobile maily due to its navigation.

Anyway two mobile app are upcoming :

• pferd (fork of thunder)
• interstellar (to confirm)

For me, the most deal breaker are post/comment view and mod view + notification board. Because as a mod/user, i use them a lot. They are all in development, it’s good, it will take some time. :)

Over time i noticed that i prefer the mobile version of Fediverse software. I use the web mobile version for IceShrimp, Lemmy, Piefed. The only app i use is mastodon (fedilab)

The web mobile provide me a better experience : lot features, better sync, mod tool, comment view…it depends a lot on app UI : swipe controle, draft, create post button, filters…

Well i think Piefed is pretty close to being a drop-in remplacement.

It’s true there are several missing components. however, i recall it was the same for Lemmy 1,5 year ago. And Piefed is catching up in few months.

How close ? Let’s sum up :)

On some part, Piefed clearly outmatch Lemmy on several area :

• admin/moderation board
• notification (the ability to chose a post/comment/community to follow/unfollow)
• feed (multi-community)
• federation with the fediverse
• tag (to find more related content based on keyword)

maybe more thing that i don’t know about

some part are missing for Piefed :

• mobile app support (but the web mobile is good + coming soon)
• lacks of theme
• cross-post
• notification board (repport/post/coms/idea aren’t separated)
• comment/post/moderation view
• media management (lemmy doesn’t have one yet, iceshrimp is the best on that area)

There are rough edge. Even if some part are missing, it is quite a good experience. In a few months they did lot progress. :)

Well, that’s part of the decentralisation with its pros and cons. And that’s what i enjoy about the Verse (lemmy, mbin, piefed…)

• cons : multiple communities with the same name. People are dispersed.
• pro : no centralised decision for all the Verse. Several flavor.

You can chose them based on :

• the number of comments and posts.
• the moderation team by checking the modlog of their community. Do you agree with their value ? How is it managed ?
• people. Do you fell well there ? Or do you prefer there ? Only time can tell you :)

Another idea :

• Use an app that support multi-communities
• Create a Piefed account so you can benefit from multi-community : feed. Create a feed, and put those similar community in one place. On few cross-post, they also regroup comment in one place. It’s still a new software but i enjoy it a lot. :)

Correct. However with ActivityPub protocol those number are irrevalent : any increase of users from (Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed) will benefit Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed.

And to a certain extend, on Mbin and later Piefed, they will also reach microblogging plateform as iceshrimp and mastodon. Then pixelfed, peertube, loops…