Typo, I fixed it.

Might I suggest instead of spending money on a car payment, spend less then a car payments worth of money on maintance? I am shocked at how many bald tyre, brakes fucked, window washer fluid depleted cars are sliding around in winter.

I think anything 2008 and before is kinda a sweet spot for car driving quality. After the subprime crisis its like all the car makers went to shit.

Yes, But this is my point. You are sharing a video from “CAR TV” who’s tag line is “Watch New Model Cars With Pleasure 🎬” Its very much selling the idea that newer is safer, but the data only shows a slight increase in safety (and nothing on rate of crashes old vs new). In the video they show the two cars crashing but no data at all, the 1998 one from what I can see looks non fatal (seatbelt held, engine block not in lap, steering wheel not impaling chest) but not only do they say “The test showed the driver of the older Corolla would likely have died as a result of the 64km/h collision” they also don’t show that data. Even when looking for sources I get almost no where, this stinks.

Oh and in the little write up they say “ROAD safety experts have renewed calls for drivers to get behind the wheel of newer cars after an unprecedented crash test revealed shocking results.” Why do they write ROAD in all caps? Is this a special interest group? A lobbyist? No idea I can’t even check since there are no sources!

I am not saying newer cars don’t have more safety built in, I am saying its a matter of finding what level you are comfortable in and to not get suckered into needless fear over your cars safety rating while the average driver does not even maintain their car’s brakes.

No, The issue is with conceptions of auto safety becoming a selling point. For example look at the single biggest invention in reducing crash fatality? You would think maybe airbags, seat belts or ABS brakes… But nope, collapsible steering columns. But we are now sold “death proof” SUVs that are not really safer, in some ways worse. The issue is that safety devices have a diminishing return but fear is a great selling point, I would say there are old things that are death traps (like square body chevys) and things like saabs that I would say are to this day built safer then new cars. If we look at the data for auto fatalities per capita we can see that car safety has not had some magical jump since the late 80s but a more expected gradual change.

As a side note I do and have done a lot of driving and from what I have seen in the last 20 plus years is a slide into cars that are:

• Top heavy (bigger is not safer)
• Have little to no visibility (that then try to make up for with back up cameras)
• Are built not to avoid crashing but to make crashing more comfortable
• Have limited to no driving feed back and over reliance on things like traction control
• Make driving on the same road with them more dangerous (just look at north american headlights)

At the end of the day I would rather drive a car that I can see out of and has a degree of safety devices (seat belts, collapsible steering column, working brakes) then something that is built like a living room on low profile tires that I will at some point crash. Bonus points if it does not explode or catch fire easily (think pintos or teslas).

Right now my car is an 84. With a back up 86 truck. I used to have a 2011 subaru, but hit an prairie antelope with it. If I had my pick I think 1990-2008 Japanese cars are the sweet spot.

That’s newer then I would go but yeah at least Honda seems to be behind on the complete shit curve.

Too bad it comes with the jeep…

Hard, even stuff from 10 years ago have proaitary hardware across multiple “brains”.

This is why used cars are so dang expensive, it seems like automobile quality has been in a free fall since 2008. The end user experience gets worse while the price goes up.

Honestly? I think just not supporting a war (trade or otherwise) with your long time ally will go quite a way. War in a far away land is one thing, war with your neighbour is another thing all together. As long as americans don’t just shrug and pretend everything is normal this whole idea will go no where.

On the other hand if it does go in the most stupid direction, prepare for blackouts and attacks on any and all infrastructure. This is not a threat but just a reasonable expectation of a nations activity when in this situation.

Finally a silver lining to a trade war. Shut down those borders and stew in your own bird flu variant.

So you are saying (assuming every US resident will go along with this) that we just have to take out about 10 American’s each?

I like those odds.