Having them pointed towards lemmy.ml is a little concerning.
We should do a bunch of them with varying non-Tankie instances
Like programming.dev or lemmy.blahaj.zone
Or maybe even better, have a small table at the bottom with their focuses
Yeah. join-lemmy.org unfortunately isn’t great because it often points to random semi dead instances.
Something like,
The instance you join doesn’t matter much — because you can access all content no matter what instance you are on — but it can be nice to be on an instance that shares you interests and values, because you will have to conform to the rules of that instance. Think of it like your clan — it’s like your email being yourname@yourworkplace — you can still email everyone else and see their emails, but it signals something about you, and it has different rules.
Here are a couple options:
General Purpose:
- discuss.online (hosted US)
- lemm.ee
- lemmy.cafe
- sh.itjust.works (hosted Canada)
Interests:
- mander.xyz (Science)
- programming.dev (Programming)
- infosec.pub (Cybersecurity)
- lemmynsfw.com (Porn)
Diversity:
- lemmy.blahaj.zone (LGBTQ+)
Regions/Langauges:
- jlai.lu (French)
- feddit.org (German)
- lemmy.ca (Canada)
- aussie.zone (Australia)
Ideology:
- lemmy.dbzer0.com (Anarchism and Piracy)
- slrpnk.net (Environmentalist Leftists)
- lemmy.ml (Authoritarian Leftists)
Please copypaste my comment and add instances / improve it
I like the idea, but people have said several times that choosing an instance is a barrier for them.
I usually go with
"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users
- https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency)
- https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU
- https://vger.app/ if you want an app
Feel free if you have any questions"
Yeah I think I elaborated too much. Let’s just keep recommending small instances — because the current centralisation on world sucks.
I’ve been thinking of switching instances.
But I think part of the problem is the domain names on so many instances are so odd. Lemmy.world is very clean and easy to tell someone verbally, as opposed to say sopudi.xvz or dbzer0 or blahaj.zone.
I suppose “discuss.online” isn’t such a bad name. And “midwest.social” but people who are not in the Midwest might not feel like they identify with that geographically.
Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience.
I strongly have the opposite opinion. Let people start on Lemmy.World and once they have experience (like you), they can move to where they want.
They’re an actual non-profit org out of the Netherlands with professional hosting.
Federation is a feature like divorce is a feature. It’s extremely important that it exists and is accessible. Not everybody needs to do it. Other servers are a fine option if you know what you’re doing and are willing to deal with more issues OR if there’s a compelling reason (such as the various regional servers).
When federation between lemm.ee and lemmy.world is behind by an hour or two, where do you think users will have a better experience? When 90% of their content is now a couple hours older, that’s a worse experience.
And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything. It just puts more stress on federation technology. If you spread out all the users, Federation becomes a much harder to manage many to many relationship between all the servers, instead of primarily being a one to many relationship.
In short, if you spread out the users equally, suddenly every instance begins to have federation issues with each other, and everyone has a worse experience. With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common.
The regional servers have more of a balance here. 90% of their content may be old, but the 10% they are up to date with are the things closest to them, most important to them, and maybe in their language.
I do appreciate having several general use instances. I just don’t want to send newbies there who will generalize their experience to all of Lemmy and the Fediverse.
Capitalism destroyed our government, captured our constitution, and is literally ending the world (for humans, don’t worry it’ll be fine in a few million years and it’ll be like we never existed, thank goodness for that).
I find comedy in people likely here due to the greed rot of Spez wanting to go public and now fondling billionaire balls still, here on Lemmy like digital refugees in the wake of capitalism breaking promises to and destroying a community to increase private profit, going “ewww commies and socialists.”
Credit where it’s due, the capitalist’s Orwell game is God tier.
No, we are going “ewww tankies”
I’m not very into Lemmy, what’s so bad about lemmy.ml?
We read and comprehend the Communist Manifesto with some level of agreement and usually quite a bit more. But it’s mostly privacy focused. Full disclosure: vegan anarchist.
To be fair, it was apparently posted in r/anarchocommunism, so I’d just chalk it up to knowing your audience. At least it was just .ml, and not grad or hexbear!
I’d say that’s even more tone-deaf then. Anarchists hate tankies.
i left yesterday after 12 years. joined lemmy. the internet was a lot cooler before it was run by billionaires and ass kissers who are intimidated by billionaires.
fuck em all
i left yesterday after 12 years. joined lemmy.
Welcome!
Here’s your welcome-possum:
I thought we do welcome beans?
When you’ve settled in, consider joining a smaller instance! Just because it has “Lemmy” in the name doesn’t mean it’s official or good. We all federate together, so you can still join communities hosted on other instances.
thank you! still wrapping my head around the “instances” thing but i think i’m starting to get it
Different geocities neighborhoods
Welcome!
Imagine running from censorship and going to Lemmy.ml lmao
Right? Way to destroy a movement and make a bunch of people run back to Reddit and “never again”.
This was on /r/anarchocommunism. It’s no great loss of they stay on Reddit.
.world straight up blocks /c/piracy and “preemptively” blocked hexbear.
Blocking hexbear is a sensible choice, good for them.
They blocked piracy for like a day over a year ago and then unblocked it when the users were clearly against it.
Hexbear being blocked is a good thing and overwhelmingly supported by the users.
They blocked piracy for like a day over a year ago and then unblocked
Still blocked for me. Every time I click [email protected] returns a “couldnt_find_community” error message.
I’m a .world user:
You’re loading into the main dbzero webpage, not pulling the data into your .world instance.
Here is what I see on my end:
- blocking hexbear is a good idea
world unblocked priacy instances over a year agowith the notable exception of the db0 instance
World went back and banned dbo piracy comm after banning then unbanning when people noticed
just checked if I can see piracy on lemmy.world and yes you’re correct. Though it seems only the db0 instance was banned in particular weirdly.
I still stand by point 1 though. Hexbear as an instance has been profile-blocked by me.
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revolutions are born in monents like these
Holy shit can this whole thing be any more corny? Is this done by teenagers? Don’t get me wrong fuck Musk/reddit/etc. but what is even the outrage about this time?
Subreddits are being banned and important information being hindered from being seen. It may be corny to you but at least they’re trying. What have you done?
.ml? hope they know.
what’s wrong with my instance? its a real question, i dont use lemmy that often
Extremely sensitive admins who ban people from all communities for any criticism of China, Cuba and North Korea.
It’s a running joke on Lemmy at this point.
oops, i should migrate
Aside from other concerns, I find the association with Brexit to be less than ideal. But people should also note that this was posted on r/anarchocommunism so it makes sense they recommended lemmy.ml
Overall it’s fine, we are still at the stage where just getting people to hear about the existence of Lemmy is a big win. They may join and leave, they may just navigate to the page and not join, but now they are aware of it and may eventually decide to join in the future when reddit fucks up again.
DB0 would be a far better fit like @[email protected] said
That’s true, but I’m just pointing out that it’s a leftist subreddit recommending lemmy.ml, so it’s not going out to a generalized audience.
And honestly they’re not as tankie as people claim, that title really belongs to hexbear and lemmygrad. The management of lemmy.ml is tankie friendly, but many or even most of the users are not actually tankies.
It’s very complicated because they were the main server for a long time before any of us even joined Lemmy, and all of their public descriptions don’t even mention leftism at all, it’s just about privacy and FOSS. Many users have made accounts there and used it for years without really caring or engaging with the tankie allegations or posts. It’s not as bad as some people make it out to be.
Hexbear on the other hand is actually worse than anyone could ever explain without experiencing it for yourself. So let’s not forget the two servers are not identical.
idk, i’ve seen screenshots and modlogs where mods ban people from every .ml community for diagreeing with them
IIRC that was an automated function that wasn’t always intentional. Unfortunately I can’t find the thread where I heard that. I believe it had something to do with a specific version of Lemmy though.
I’ve seen all the screenshots, c/meanwhileongrad is on my server. But many of those incidents have a lot of context that isn’t captured by the screenshots, when you look more closely
Then how come it only removes the specific comments that annoy the mods?
The removal of certain comments is intentional and politically motivated and I don’t approve. But then when you see people getting banned from like 20 other communities in the modlog due to that one comment, I think that was sometimes unintentional.
Idk, you’d think they would share the script or whatever it is, how come it doesn’t happen on non-tankie friendly instances.
The management of lemmy.ml is tankie friendly, but many or even most of the users are not actually tankies.
You haven’t been on .ml much or don’t pay attention to the subtleties if you think the admins and main mods aren’t full blown Tankies. And they’re quick to silence dissenting voices that dare criticize China or Russia, no matter how deserving or right
.ml is more subtle than hex that’s true, but they’re absolutely Tankies just the same and consider hex and grad friends.
On the contrary, I do pay attention to the subtleties. Dessalines and many of the mods on their most active communities are tankies.
But I’ve never seen evidence that Nutomic is a tankie, and many of the smaller moderators and users aren’t tankies either.
In fact, if you ask hexbear and lemmygrad what they think of Nutomic, they’ll probably tell you he’s a liberal, enlightened centrist, or cryptofascist, which all mean roughly the same thing according to their idiosyncratic version of the English language. I.e., he has been pushing back against tankies and hexbears since well before the APIcalypse, back when almost the whole Lemmy userbase was tankie.
Talking about several thousand people as if they all share the exact same political beliefs and behave the exact same way is pretty much the definition of not paying attention to the subtleties.
First of all, that has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Nutomic is a tankie. So I’m assuming you concede that you were completely wrong about that.
Second of all, that’s a screenshot of a private message.
What specifically bothers you about what he said there?
Are you serious? Who says shit like that outside of being a Tankie?
At this point I can see where this is going and I no longer believe you to be arguing in good faith and is probably just being a Tankie apologist.
Goodbye.
