• Okokimup@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Thank you for sharing, this does a great job of describing why the show didn’t work for me. I’m not going to hide spoilers, because that doesn’t work on lemmy across all platforms.

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    Maybe if I knew she was supposed to become a villain, I could have enjoyed it more. I kept expecting a hero. She’s supposed to be brilliant but keeps making really bad choices. And the juxtaposition of her background vs Tony’s and the divergent paths they took, doesn’t sit well with me.

    The side characters were all fantastic. I thought the CGI was fine. It’s better at creating technology and magic, rather than biological organisms.

    They should have spent more time developing the characters. The ending was so sudden and we have no reason, at this point, to expect a second season, so it becomes an incomplete story, with no character arc.

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      It was such a strange choice, because she’d made the wrong decision at literally every point. So having her do so at the last moment felt like the opposite of narrative arrival.

      It was like listening to someone tell a joke that goes ‘A guy goes into the bar and asks for <x>. Then a second guy goes into the bar and asks for <x>. Finally, a third guy goes into the bar. The bartender asks what he wants. And he asks for <x>.’

      It makes no sense, structurally. It was a fall from grace story with no fall.

      Also, why are they doing this to a character we’re supposed to like? They are really doing Riri Williams so dirty. We all so badly want to like Ironheart, and she’s got such an almost impossible challenge ahead of her because she’s going to invariably have to weather comparisons to Robert Downey Jr.'s Iron Man. And I can forgive trying and failing, but at the end it seems they’re not even going to try? They’re just going to make her a heel? That’s fucking nuts.

      Also, what is their plan for this? This show and character don’t seem nearly strong enough to be essential viewing or a tent-pole storyline. But if they don’t get a second season or make her a major character in films then I’m worried this is the end of Riri. If this is the complete Ironheart ark we get from Disney and Feige then it’s going to be one of the biggest television betrayals since Wanda Maximov was turned evil and then shoved unceremoniously off to her death. Why do this? The stories are already disappointing so many fans. Why make choices that make it worse?

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      3 days ago

      When even a talk with the devil is boring there’s something wrong.

      I’m not sure what I expected, but certainly not this. Everybody was an asshole or an idiot.

      The CGI was pretty neat though. What a waste…

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      3 days ago

      I agree that more time should have been spent developing characters. I got the vibe from several episodes that this was supposed to be an 8 or 10 episode series, but it was forced during editing down to 6.

      I don’t think she’s supposed to be a hero or a villain. Look at where Tony Stark is at the start of Iron Man. He runs one of the worlds biggest weapons manufacturing companies. That’s not hero or villain. But he is being used by villains to do villainous things. That’s where Riri’s story is.

      She’s trying to figure out life and what she wants is simple, she wants her friend back. She wasn’t planning on it, but it happened.

      Apart from being rushed I thought the show really worked well.