Just wish there were more transparency around counts and content engagement.

I firmly believe most influencer these day were propped up with payed views and botted engagement. Not that lemmy is the same but it all feels so dirty.

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    if someone downvoted without commenting they probably don’t want to spend half an hour arguing in comments.

    Bingo.

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      This is precisely my reason for why they should be public.

      In my view downvotes should be used sparingly, only to suppress spam and trolling comments that don’t add to the conversation.

      By keeping votes private people just downvote anything they disagree with

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          You have no reason to so I presume you haven’t.

          If we were actually in a discussion and you started downvoting all my comments I’d see it as a sign of pettiness and disengage.

          I’d probably also tag you as a reminder to myself not to engage with you again.

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            You have no reason to so I presume you haven’t.

            I’m telling you I downvoted your comment.

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                I guess. I don’t get it. If I refused to talk to anyone if they ever downvoted me, I would run out of people to talk pretty quickly.

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                  I guess. I don’t get it.

                  This sums it up exactly!

                  You aren’t just downvoting comments you disagree with, you’re downvoting comments because you don’t understand them.

                  By downvoting instead of commenting you never open that discussion to learn about somebody’s view.

                  And by downvoting you’re reducing the chance that somebody else might see the comment. Who either does understand it, or responds to continue the discussion.

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                  To me, a downvote means “what you wrote contributes nothing to the discussion, and should be less visible”. If someone downvotes me, I take it as a sign that no further discussion in that direction is meaningful.

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                    I completely agree, you’ve summed up my view far better than I could.

                    There’s also a controversial approach that if you’re debating with someone and you believe in the points you’re making then you should upvote even the comments you disagree.

                    By doing so the full thread of comments is ranked higher so more people see the incredibly clever points you’re articulating.

                    This isn’t so relevant on Lemmy right now because it’s still small so you might read all comments on ba post. But it made a massive difference on reddit where there were thousands of comments. So the algorithm becomes very selective.