• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    21 hours ago

    So they shutdown because they couldn’t federate with any other instances and considered that censorship

    Damn, I actually didn’t see that coming, I guess they will move the goal post from any starting point.

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      18 hours ago

      I’m going to play devil’s advocate and ask: How is it not censorship?

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        18 hours ago

        Cause no one is stopping you from going to said instance and just having the discussion there.

        If there was this super important leak that needed to be out there, if it’s posted on a right wing instance that is a defederated ghost town, it’s still out there. People can link to it and leverage the instance to have the needed discussions.

        Censorship means removing access, defederation does not wipe it off of the Internet.

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          13 hours ago

          I would argue that censorship includes the suppression of information in its definition, not only it’s removal.

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            9 hours ago

            The information isn’t being suppressed, just not allowed to seep our of the trash bin it’s currently in

            If you want the garbage it’s easy to find. Most normal people don’t, so it gets kept where it won’t taint everything

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              51 minutes ago

              Same logic applied to something the right does:

              “We are not banning books, we are just not allowing them in libraries and schools. You can always buy them if you feel the need to expose your child to them.”

              So, following your logic, the right isn’t suppressing information about LGTBQI+ people.

              Dont get me wrong please, I don’t think right wing content should stand unchallenged. I am just not a big fan of only allowing the “correct” information. Because, that is what the right is doing already (while screaming about free speach, mind you). I think it’s better to engage with right content and destroy it with arguments, rather then just banning it. I know I’m a minority with that opinion on Lemmy. I’m fine with that.