April 5 (Reuters) - Israel has detained two British members of parliament and refused entry to the officials who were visiting as part of a parliamentary delegation, British Foreign Minister David Lammy said in a statement late on Saturday.
Sky News, citing a statement from the Israeli immigration ministry, says that the detained parliamentarians are Labour MPs Yuan Yang and Abtisam Mohamed, who were rejected because they were suspected of plans to “document the activities of security forces and spread anti-Israel hatred.”
“I have made clear to my counterparts in the Israeli government that this is no way to treat British Parliamentarians, and we have been in contact with both MPs tonight to offer our support,” Lammy said.
Huh? How is the Nakba anything other than the work of fascists? Remember that the only reason the death toll in the Nakba was “only” a little north of ten thousand people was because Israelis didn’t have the weapons of mass destruction they have today and Palestinians weren’t stuck in an open air concentration camp. Fundamentally what the IDF was doing in 1948 isn’t much different from what it’s doing today, and you should look up what they were doing to Palestinians within their borders until the six-day war.
The Nakba was a tragedy, and Ben has his role in that along with all the other high ups in the various paramilitary forces. The IDF didn’t exist then, though it does trace its routes back to those paramilitary groups.
That Ben G worked to limit their power once the nation was formed is a mark against him being a fascist to me, and he didn’t go as hard on violent struggle as the meaning of life as full fasc-fascism does.
Violent, racist, and did bad things yes (and genocidal to boot!). I don’t think that auto-makes fascist.
As for what was being done pre-Six Day War I’m going to guess pogroms, murders, and forced sterilisation. So I’ll go back up and add genocidal to it. Doesn’t make him fascist though, unless we’re making it a synonym for genocidist.
Fair enough. I’m still going to call the average Israeli a fascist from the start (something something settlements), but I guess their ruling class was too committed to the idea of a democratic Zionist state to allow a true fascist society to develop until Oslo and the lead up to the assassination of Rabin. The way I see it, the assassination of Rabin—rather than being a sign of a fundamental change—was things snapping back into place. The Israeli leadership had simply come to represent more accurately the people.
Aye, any Israeli who isn’t actively opposing the settlements in the West Bank is unambiguously in the wrong. And I wish that wasn’t a controversial statement.
You’re right in that Rabin’s assassination wasn’t the change in itself (that such Israeli extremists had continued to exist shows that that violent current in Israel had continued and been bubbling away), but it makes a good mark of a turning point and the loss of really any chance for reconciliation in at least our lifetimes.