• Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I guess it is. But why pretend this is something new? Games have always been expensive. Ps1 games were between 40 and 60 dollars when they came out. That’s almost 110 dollars accounting for inflation on about 50 dollars then.

    The ps1 itself would cost almost 800 dollars today, accounting for inflation.

    Game prices haven’t really followed along with inflation. The 60 dollar game has been a thing since i was a child in the 90s.

    I agree that perhaps 80 dollars is a lot for a game, and maybe they should be priced lower than 1 quarter the cost of the console, but thats a different argument.

    What i am saying, again, is this is nothing new, and i think this outrage is symptomatic of “short-term memory loss”.

    I wish games were cheaper. But ragging on nintendo for charging less than they used to for n64 games (when accounting for inflation) and selling a console that plays ps5 games for less than a ps5. Is a bit strange. I also think the portability of the switch is something neither of the big 2 have. The playstation portal is half the cost of a ps5 and has to be on the same wifi as the ps5.

    I just dont see why people think this is so egregious.

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      24 hours ago

      Because it is egregious. Wow solved that for you. Write an essay somewhere else about how you love Nintendo so much.

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        23 hours ago

        In fact. I dont care if you realise it or not. I dont need your validation. Im in my 30s. I’m nearly 40. i have been gaming since the sega master system. That’s fairly early doors for gaming. Its super early for console gaming. I know what i am talking about, i have been alive for long enough and paid for enough games to know what i am talking about.

        The fact that you are just going to downvote me and offer absolutely nothing to counter my argument is enough for me to know you are EITHER too young to k ow about any of this, or being purposfully ignorant to jump on the rage wagon.

        The fact you automatically think i am schilling for nintendo because my argument passively defends them (its actually an argument defending all game pricing) is just evidence of your immaturity.

        Grow up, eh?

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          23 hours ago

          Well since you brought it up Ive been gaming longer than you. Raising prices to $80, $90, and $100 is price gouging, thats all it is.

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            23 hours ago

            Right. So its the willfully ignorant path then?

            Come on, mate. How can you be so blind?

            And as i said in the other comment. Please show me the 90 or 100 dollar switch 2 games.

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              23 hours ago

              Switch 2 isnt out yet, how can I show you? Nintendo said in direct new Switch 2 games could be $80 for digital and $90 for physical.

              On top of that you have their membership you have to pay for online. And then you have to pay for any DLC. It’s a joke.

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                22 hours ago

                So, assuming you can’t find pricing right now would mean that you are speculating entirely and basing your whole argument on that.

                But if you actually google it

                https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mario-Kart-World-U-S-Version/15940407280

                You will find that this physical game is 80 dollars on preorder at walmart.

                A further search will show a number of games available for preorder

                https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-game-preorder-listings-are-live

                And if you scroll through (its just a short way down the article, the most expensive game is 80 dollars and the cheapest is 40 dollars.

                Does that change anything about you opinion? Now that i have backed up my argument?

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                    17 hours ago

                    My dude! You were saying 90 and 100, which you haven’t been able to provide any proof for. I showed you literal evidence that you are wrong, and i feel like you are ignoring that. You should accept when you are wrong about something. I absolutely will if you provide evidence to back up a claim

                    As i stated, multiple times. Yes, 80 dollars is a lot. And arguably too much.

                    But to bring up the very first thing i said again. It’s just not new.

                    Admittedly it is more often than not the deluxe versions or 2nd tier of a games release that breaks the 80 dollar barrier but there are absolutely games over the past 5 to 10 years that have cost more than 80 dollars

                    https://pricespy.co.uk/games-consoles/games/ps5-games/final-fantasy-xvi-deluxe-edition-ps5--p7303985?

                    https://gamerant.com/most-expensive-steam-games/

                    Evben retro games had some going for 80 or more (in todays money thats 187 dollars give or take)

                    https://archive.org/details/RetroGamingProductCatalogs/Diehard GameFan Catalog Issue %233/page/n2/mode/1up?view=theater

                    Have you seen how much is costs to buy destiny the game? With all of the expansions (which sometimes get “sunsetted” meaning they take the content away as it becomes defunct due to power level shift and game mechanic altereations as well as light level resets)

                    Depending on where you buy it and what deals are on and if you buy the whole bundle or buy it in stages, it’s anywhere between 150 to 280 dollars. And then that game is riddled with microtransactions.

                    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/all-dlc/destiny-2?sortBy=relevancy&sortDir=DESC&count=40

                    So its not new.

                    I dont think its good, i dont want to spend that much on games. But the outrage is based on a false premise. Thats all i ever argued. And so far you have insulted me, acted condescendingly towards me, basically called me a schill for nintendo.

                    Yet i have consistently backed up my claims with evidence and repeatedly stated that i dont believe 80 dollars for a game is a fair price.

                    Please at least acknowledge that you may have come in a bit hot and might have been wrong in your initial claim.

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        23 hours ago

        So after reading about how, when accou ting for inflation, games are actually cheaper today than they should be. Your whole counter is. “Hur dur, because no, dont write paragraphs, me not read more than 20 seconds. Hur dur” yeah good one…

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          23 hours ago

          Things are way more expensive than they should be. Inflation isnt a catch all to simply raise prices. And yes this includes games. $80, $90, and $100 games are too expensive, it aint complicated.

          This is price gouging in the name of inflation, not because of it.

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            23 hours ago

            But its LOWER than inflation. And its based on misinformation.

            Is your argument against nintendo, or all game pricing?

            If its all game pricing then i agree with you. Like i said in my “essay” games are too expensive.

            If its against nintendo specifically then its not even correct. There are no 100 dollar switch 2 games. There are no 90 dollar switch 2 games. Thats factually incorrect and i implore you to find proof. I will shut my mouth if you do.

            80 dollars? Sure. But as i said in my “essay” thats nothing new. And its not exclusive to nintendo.

            All i am saying is your rage is misplaced and you need to know your enemy.